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Accused Sex Offender Arraigned

Was removed from the work for similar past offenses


Hopkinton suspect in sex assault case faced earlier accusation
A Hopkinton man recently charged with sexually assaulting a Worcester teen was barred from his work as a traveling minister in the 1970s after an earlier allegation of child abuse, current and former members of his religious group said. George Scandalis, 67, had been a minister for a Christian fellowship that goes by no official name but is informally known as the Two-by-Twos, the Workers, the Truth or the Christian Conventions.

Hopkinton man, 66, accused of enticing boy
A 66-year-old Hopkinton man was arraigned on August 24, 2010, on charges of indecently assaulting and enticing a 14-year-old boy after asking to use the youth's cell phone.


Workers meet at Seneca

but not much has changed

A group of overseers met July 26, 2010, at Seneca Convention grounds for the purpose of deciding what to do about sex predators who are still in the 2x2 ministry, (as if having sex predators in the ministry is an option?) 39 days later and one certain sex predator, known as such by other overseers, is still in the ministry serving as an overseer (aka "head worker"). Does the 2x2 ministry have the ability to clean up its own house? Apparently not. The workers' ministry has had, and still has, sex predators in its ranks, several rising to the level of overseer of which there is at least one still presently in that position. This is known to other overseers, yet the overseer in question is still in the ministry as well as still in his position. Why is that? Why should a known sex predator hold the position of overseer in this ministry, much less be in the ministry at all? This ministry has covered the trail for some of these offenders by moving them to other states and/or silencing the victims. Where is truth when this ministry has, for years now, protected sex predators in its ranks?

One of the safest measures a ministry can take to avoid child sex abuse is to not have an authoritarian, celibate ministry that lives in the homes of those to whom they minister.



Did you know that the workers' church was started in 1897 by a man named William Irvine?

"You can tell whether a church is a false church or not if it was started by a man or woman. We are the only church on earth that was started by Christ."
- Jack Carroll, 2x2 worker

Jack Carroll did.

If you didn't know, be sure to ask the workers in your field for verification.


The workers claim that their ministry was established by Christ, and that they follow the examples given by Jesus closer than any other ministry.

Have you ever had a worker wash your feet?

John 13:14


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Who are the Two-by-Twos?

The Christian Convention Church, known by others as the "Two-by-Twos" is a secretive pseudo-Christian gathering of well-meaning folks, most of whom are clueless as to the history and factual truth about their church. It is interesting to note that the members call their group the "truth," instead of Jesus himself, as written in John 14:6.

Most members subscribe to the notion that their little church is "from the beginning," implying direct ministerial lineage from the 12 disciples of Christ. Thanks to the internet and the free proliferation of previously-hidden facts, the group had to slightly revise its story by saying that their ministry is "from the beginning" and that it was recently revived in the present time. This revision contradicts their own insistence that the "truth" is unchanging, or has "always been on the earth." If the "truth" is truly unchanging, the revision of their history would be unnecessary.

The church's nickname is a derivative of the manner in which its ministers (known as "workers") travel about in pairs, going "two and two" as described by either Mark 6 or Luke 10. At some point, the nickname became "Two-by-Two." Church members are quick to point out that the phrase "two by two" is not in the bible, thus the name is invalid. What they fail to note is that the word "convention" (a 4-day annual gathering that all members are expected to attend) is also not in the bible.

Hmmm...

2x2s believe that they are the ONE TRUE CHURCH because of how their ministers live and because they meet in homes rather than church buildings.

"The church in the home is a part of Jesus, just as the ministry is a part of Jesus, and you cannot have the blood of Jesus without accepting all of Jesus...The truth is the two-and-two ministry and the church meeting in the home."
- William Peterson, 2x2 worker

"My hope of salvation is the blood of Christ. But I would like to explain to you what it means. The blood of Christ is the ministry and the church in the home. Without the New Testament ministry you don't have the blood of Christ which includes the church in the home. The forgiveness of sins is a fringe benefit. "
- Leo Stancliff, 2x2 worker

Based on this belief, 2x2s collectively denounce all other Christian churches as "false." However, they don't just stop there. Even if another church were to have a similarly organized ministry and meet in homes, it would still be viewed by them as a "false church." They believe that they, and only they, are the ONE TRUE CHURCH. If you do not attend their church, in their mind you are an "outsider." If you once attended their church but no longer attend, in their mind you have "lost out."

But that's not the oddest thing about this church. They do not have a unifying doctrine, or core beliefs, to which they adhere. If you were to ask them what they believe, you'll either get a rambling answer, or they will simply claim that they "believe in the Bible," and leave it at that.

2x2s believe that they are the ONE TRUE CHURCH, but they are unable to explain why.

2x2s do not believe that their church started in 1897. If asked, they will generally lie about it, or as above, ramble on with a somewhat confusing answer which even they cannot prove. They claim their ministers are "homeless and penniless," yet the truth is that they have credit cards and slush funds at their disposal.

2x2s generally believe that their church is the same all over the world, yet they do not all believe the same things. For example, some 2x2s openly admit that their church started in 1897. Some openly deny that they are the ONE TRUE CHURCH.

When challenged about church history, some 2x2s claim that history is not important, yet they lie about the history of their church.

The members of this church call themselves "the Truth," yet they lie about their church. Thus, 2x2ism is THE LYING TRUTH.


Comments from former 2x2s:

"We were having doubts for several years about all that goes on in the "Truth" and reading about the background and beginning of it made me furious after being lied to about the history all those years that we professed."
"I decided that I wanted to understand the Bible and I wasn't getting enough information from the workers. All they talked about was the ministry and I wanted to know more about the Bible . When I finlly did learn more, I realized that the "way" wasn't right."
"The bottom line is this...the 2x2's teach doctrine that is contrary to scripture and they do not agree among themselves (at all levels, from older workers to younger workers from elders to saints) on what they believe."
"When I left the 2x2's, and got into a good church, the Bible became a new experience for me I remember reading it like I had never even set eyes on it before in my life!! It, for me, at least, was NOT the same Bible I had in the "truth." The words were the same, but I had finally grasped the MEANING, which was so much different."
"Oh how confident we were that we had the answers! Such misplaced confidence while in reality we knew so little!"
"The 'truth' believes and teaches doctrine contrary to the inspired inerrant Word of God."
"The one distinctive characteristic of a cult is that they do not recognize or acknowledge who Jesus Christ is."
"Why would anyone remain in a church which encourages its members to shun relatives who don't attend that church?"

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IF THE HISTORY OF THE 2X2 CHURCH IS UNIMPORTANT, THEN WHY LIE ABOUT IT?